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Colossians 2:20-23, 3:5-7, Part 1
« on: March 04, 2021, 10:52:17 PM »
Defeating Spiritual Uncleanness By Mortifying The Flesh, Part 2

     What was the early church's answer for dealing with sexual temptation? As covered in Part 1, the answer for the early church was to "bringing the body under submission" through fasting. This is why when heretics threatened to lure the Colossians back into concentrating merely on abstaining from only certain foods in keeping with the Jewish food laws, Paul explained that this actually had little value in bringing the flesh under submission. What they needed to do was bring their bodies under submission through fasting all foods, until the physical members of their bodies (particularly their sexual members) were brought under the power of the Spirit, and their sexual urges nullified by lack of sustenance:

     If you died with Christ from the principles of the world, why as though living in the world do you subject yourself to decrees? Touch not, taste not, neither handle such things as are all coming to corruption with the using, in accordance with the injunctions and teachings of men; [teachings] which indeed have an appearance of wisdom in advocating voluntary subservience, self-abasement and neglect of the body, [yet] do not have any value against gratification of the flesh. If therefore you were raised with Christ... Mortify your members upon the earth: Sexual immorality, uncleanness, physical passion, evil lust, and [sexual] covetousness, which is idolatry, on account of which things the wrath of God is coming upon the sons of disobedience, among whom you also walked when you were once living among these. (Colossians 2:20-23, 3:5-7)

     The word "mortify" meant literally to "put to death" their bodily members, and the context makes it clear what members Paul had specifically in mind. And as also covered in Part 1, numerous studies have proven that if the body is fasted down long enough, the sex drive increasingly diminishes until it is eventually non-existent, at least until they go back to eating more heavily again. The fasting regimen of early church theologian John Cassian and its effectiveness at eliminating the sex drive was put to the test back in the 1940s by researchers at the University of Minnesota led by Aline Rousselle. Here again is some of what she wrote from her findings:

     John Cassian, Jerome, Gregory of Nyssa and Basil of Ancyra all understood the benefits of ascestic fasting to include the slowing of the processes that lead to sexual desire. Aline Rousselle has demonstrated that modern research on the effects of food deprivation confirms the ancient theory to some extent... One of the marked and common effects of prolonged food deprivation - in the Minnesota experiment as well as numerous studies of starving populations in war or famine - is a weakening or loss of sexual desire and activity. The researchers at Minnesota found that by the end of the twenty-four weeks of semi-starvation "sexual feeling and expression … were virtually extinguished in all but a few of the subjects." They also report that "masturbation and nocturnal emissions ceased or were greatly reduced in frequency. Sex fantasies and sex dreams were reported to have decreased in number, and when present they were much attenuated." During the rehabilitation period, the sex drive returned only very slowly. The researchers attributed the decrease in sexual desire in starvation or semi-starvation in part to the body's own "adaptive mechanisms protecting the individual organism from nonessential energy expenditure." Experiment results also showed a marked decrease in the production and excretion of male sex hormones (ketosteroids) as well as a reduction in semen volume and changes in its morphology. Although the Minnesota experiment involved only male subjects, the authors note previous studies documenting widespread amenorrhea among women suffering from food deprivation. (Teresa Shaw, The Burden Of The Flesh, P.126)

     The contention of Cassian was that the fasting regimen should be extended for at least six months, however. This is why the fasted life has to become a more permanent lifestyle if one would hope to keep the flesh under submission consistently. The sex drive will gradually start returning over time after one returns to a normal diet. I have done enough fasting myself to attest to this:

     The Minnesota experiment thus documented both physiological and psychological aspects of the decline in sexual interest. This decline occurred at a daily caloric intake level of around 1500-1600. It is therefore a fair assumption that the monks of Gaul or Egypt would have experienced a loss of sexual appetite and a reduction in the frequency of nocturnal emissions and erections if in fact they followed the diet described by John Cassian for any significant length of time. Indeed, Rousselle estimates that the individual items in Cassian's daily fast - bread, brine, and oil - would provide around 930 calories. Even the special meal served by Serenus to his guests, which included a few olives, roasted chickpeas, prunes, and a fig, would provide only around 1,069 calories. In light of the modern research just presented, Cassian's recommended weekly diet can only be described as one of semi-starvation. On Saturdays and Sundays, however, the monks were permitted to relax their fast and add an extra meal on a voluntary basis. Cassian very sensibly notes that extra food was necessary at times due to the extreme weakness of the body after five fasting days.
     In sum, Cassian's practical and clear assertion [through the voice of Chaeremon] that six months of rigorous fasting, vigils, and reliance on God should be enough to bring one close to the goal of chastity - which is known in part by the cessation of sensuous dreams and nocturnal emissions - seems firmly based in his observations of the heroic fasters of the Egyptian desert and confirmed by modern research in semi-starvation. (Teresa Shaw, The Burden Of The Flesh, P.127)

     So how is this done in practical terms. I believe it is done primarily through two things: Training the body in fasting, and understanding all that comes along with doing so and what to expect physiologically, and walking in a mentality that helps reinforce the lifestyle. When one believes it is indeed what Christ called his people to if they would lead lives of purity, a mentality where they envision themselves as pure before God helps all the more. I will deal with this last one first, as it is apparent from early church records that after being raised up in the Spirit after water baptism, many early Christians adopted the mindset that they had essentially become like the angels of God, and sought to become asexual in nature, thereby no longer engaging in sexual activity but seeking to become pure "virgins of God." 


Becoming As The Angels Of God In Heaven

- Start with "If you have been raised up with Christ"


Freedom From The Earthly Temptations Of Unclean Spirits

- James "earthly, soulish, and demonic"; ties the three together.
- Pittman: Demons that tempt Christians through their flesh.



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